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Not that I know many of you well, but after Howie obliged me, I decided to be courteous by posting this.

1) Reply with your name and I'll respond with something random about you.
2) I'll tell you what song/movie reminds me of you.
3) I'll pick a flavor/color of jello to wrestle with you in. (Maybe.)
4) I'll say something that only makes sense to you and me.
5) I'll tell you my first memory of you.
6) I'll tell you what animal you remind me of.
7) I'll ask you something that I've always wondered about you.
8) If I do this for you, you must post this on your journal. You MUST. It is written.
Date: Thursday, 4 August 2005 06:08 pm (UTC)

Re: I Would Do This For You...

From: [identity profile] deckardcanine.livejournal.com
Hm, I hadn't considered the fact that the faithful disciples didn't have their heads covered. I don't remember any explicit reference to "Christianity," which would have been anachronistic, or the high priests being present to mock at the crucifixion. It was pointed out to me that the "His blood" line was among the few parts left out of the subtitles. I'm a little surprised about the line being struck from the liturgy, as that seems almost like striking it from the Bible itself. (There are non-anti-Jewish ways to interpret the line, but I fully understand the difficulty in conveying any of them to those predisposed to hate Jews.)
Date: Thursday, 4 August 2005 09:32 pm (UTC)

Re: I Would Do This For You...

From: [identity profile] publius-aelius.livejournal.com
The Pope didn't strike it from the Bible, but from the liturgy; and it may have been only from the papal mass. It is now widely agreed among Biblical scholars that the Johannine Passion narrative is historically improbable and that it was larded with anti-Semitic passages, in order to curry favour with the Roman authorities, who had just bloodily suppressed the First Jewish Revolt (of 67-69 A.D.)
Also, don't you remember the high priest sitting on his donkey jeering, and finally riding away when the storm broke?
The line about the "blood guilt" wasn't captioned, for English and other European viewers, but it was left in in the film in Aramaic, a language very close to Arabic, and it was therefore understood in Arab countries, where, by all accounts I've read, it was loudly acclaimed.
Date: Friday, 5 August 2005 06:48 pm (UTC)

Re: I Would Do This For You...

From: [identity profile] deckardcanine.livejournal.com
Fair enough, but I think there was another reason for John emphasizing the role of "the Jews." It had been pointed out that every prophet was rejected in his own land, so this would be the grand fulfillment.

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