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[deckardcanine]

If you're like me, you often remember something from early(ish) childhood with no obvious trigger. Today I thought of a nursery rhyme whose archaic first line I had to look up but which otherwise remained intact:

Crosspatch, draw the latch,
Sit by the fire and spin,
Take a cup and drink it up,
And call your neighbors in.

There are, of course, various wordings. Quite notably, I discovered that some versions say not to let your neighbors in. Must've depended on the attitudes of the setting. But they are all consistent on rhyming "spin" and "in."

The trouble is, when I was young enough to receive nursery rhymes regularly, I didn't think of a spinning wheel. In order for it to make sense to myself, I consciously altered it to "spit." As if that weren't bad enough, the last line became "And call your neighbors 'it.'"

I don't think that my variation would have caught on as a lesson in propriety in any setting.

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[vortexgrey.livejournal.com]

I think it's very nice when we become nostalgic and remember the precious moments of our youth, not that mine is very far away though, but I didn't have a very good childhood, so the few things that I remember that were good, are good enough for me. And the only nursery rhymes I remember are:

This little piggy went to the market
This little piggy stayed home
This little piggy had roast beef (Yay, carnivorous pigs!)\
This little piggy had none
And this little piggy, this little piggy went (At this point I was tickled by my mom) *hoqsqueal* all the way home.

So, that was a pretty good memory. The only other song from my child hood I remember is the "gopher guts" song which I used to think was the most repulsive thing in the world and wouldnt sing it because I thought it was like a swear word.

[deckardcanine.livejournal.com]

I hadn't even considered the carnivorous pig aspect. You'd think I would, after some of the anthro comics I've read. I do recall one telling of the Three Pigs story that ends with the last pig eating the wolf. My class was disturbed not so much by the idea of a pig eating a wolf as by the idea of a pig eating something that recently ate two other pigs.

Well...

[vortexgrey.livejournal.com]

The worst part is, that pigs DO eat other pigs and animals in their slop, Sooo... I guess the rhymes and stories aren't too far apart but the whole concept of feeding herbivores meat is very wrong... And are you a teacher? I'm just asking because you mentioned your class. And I didn't see anything on your profile.

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[deckardcanine.livejournal.com]

No, I was talking about a class in which I was a student, way back in kindergarten or thereabout. I don't think I'd be a good teacher.

There is no abomination that humans will not do to livestock. I might count that as a reason for my vegetarianism. (It's not the principle of eating animals itself that persuaded me.)

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[vortexgrey.livejournal.com]

I'm a vegetarian for so many reasons, I cant even begin to count, but there are a few obvious ones like: being a furry, the (yes I'm repeating you) abomination to animals, the healthy lifestyle, the respect towards living things and so much more. I am almost a vegan, except I can't manage to not live without sushi, and I had no choice when my mom bought my leather art chair and leather dress shoes, not to mention the two fox tails that she bought to commemorate me being a furry (imagine how that turned out. I hate the killing of living things, so much that I became a vegetarian. Not to mention that it was easy for me. I have always hated steaks and burgers, and I'm not one for fish fillets either. So far my limits are all fish foods except sushi (for which I am ashamed) and I won't buy or have anything made FROM an animal. If it is just wool I don't mind, since the sheep aren't killed for their coats, but all furs and pelts and leather just makes me sick. I hate touching it. Anyway, I guess that my vegetarianism isn't complete, but I am on my way to a semi-veganism.

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[deckardcanine.livejournal.com]

Then you go farther than I do. I'm a pescovegetarian. I'm not likely to eat seafood more than once in a week, except when I'm visiting a veggie-unfriendly region.

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[vortexgrey.livejournal.com]

Not even once in a week. More like twice a month ANY time. I like sushi, but don't get it often, provoke my mother not to buy fish, I don't eat crab anymore, and I think I'm giving up lobster. Anyway, I still dislike the harming of animals, with a passion, and am ashamed of the few exceptions that I have. Still, sushi beats out when I'm offered some.

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[ruediix.livejournal.com]

I had a period when I felt that eating meat was wrong, I grew out of it as I realized that nature's cycle involves a lot of killing, violence and pain, and livestock, hunting and fishing is no different.

I still respect meat for how much effort went into it by animal and farmer alike and that the animal gave the most, and I greatly despise people that don't. I also have no respect for farmers that fiddle with nature and feed animals things they shouldn't eat, and mess with the natural order in other ways. It's just asking for trouble.

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[ruediix.livejournal.com]

I try to stick to hay-fed open-field cattle and free range chicken, but it's pretty hard to when the FDA doesn't require labeling. You basically have to know what companies use what methods.

Here there is a company that grows their own organic feed and everything. Strangely their feed fields are growing perfectly fine in the climate change while fields a quarter mile away that were covered with fertilizer are all stunted.

The progressive in me can't help but correct you . . .

[ruediix.livejournal.com]

Actually spin can refer to Knitting or Crocheting. It refers to the method of turning the stitch. Also, "crosspatch, draw the latch" refers to using an embroidery stitch to attach your new string to the old work. This is what leads to that conclusion.

Re: The progressive in me can't help but correct you . . .

[deckardcanine.livejournal.com]

I hardly know the difference between knitting and crocheting. It's all pretty foreign to me.